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By some the Eoganacht are considered a
pseudo family/political party rather than leaders who passed on their
leadership role to their descendants creating a strong YDNA lineage as
did the Irish I in the North of Ireland. From my research this appears
to fall within the range of my data and mirrors the conclusion found by
the Trinity 2008 Study. However, there is still much to be learned by
studying the descendents of the Eoganacht for their modal haplotypes,
SNPs and family history.
Our goal is to better understand the
Eoganachts septs, 500-1000A.D. by researching their descendents.
Groups 1-3 are in the South
Irish/Eoganacht septs research group. Members in group 4 that have
Eoganacht cadet branch names need to be identified and placed in group
3.
I am in the process of collaborating with
Dr. Klyosov in writing a research paper to publish the results of our
Case Studies on the Eoganachts:
My goal is to identify the YDNA of the Eoganachts.
The Eoganacht descendants in my FTDNA projects are approx. 50% South
Irish modal haplotype and the rest being from indigenous and
non-indigenous people. I will build family trees and branches from
clusters using Dr. Anatole Klyosov's mutation rate calculations. I
attach known available family histories to the YDNA family trees and
branches. The result should be very informative.
Kathleen
Kerwin, administrator
Who is eligible to
join:
You do not have to be a
member of a particular lab to join.
| Those who
are not South Irish or a Eoganacht surname are welcome to
join either of these projects to participate in the R-L21
modal haplotype analysis. I currently analyze 69 R-L21
modal haplotypes. The first three groups above
automatically become part of the research group to build
family trees and branches using the FTDNA Case Study
Framework. |
Haplogroup STR Analysis:
We use str haplogroup analysis along with Deep Clade and SNP testing to
determine a member's haplogroup. STR haplogroup analysis is based on
theory and may be used to predict Deep Clade or SNP grouping, however
only Deep Clade or SNP testing can confirm a members haplogroup. DNA
results less than 67 markers are less accurate. If you wish to improve
the accuracy of your predictive results, upgrade to at least 67 markers.
Eo'ganacht Current
Research Results: (sampling
not random but based on project members) 12/16/2011 includes Eoganacht,
South Irish, Sullivan and Mahoney projects. Group 4 results are not
included in the statistics since they are not in the research group.
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1 Eoganacht/Dal Cais surname and Irish Type
II |
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Chaisil - Sullivan |
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0.15 |
69 |
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Chaisil - McCarthy |
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0.01 |
5 |
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Chaisil - Dennehy |
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0.00 |
2 |
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Chaisil - McGillicuddy |
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0.00 |
1 |
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Chaisil - Sullivan MacCragh |
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0.00 |
1 |
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Glendamnach - Keefe |
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0.00 |
2 |
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Raithlind - O'Mahony |
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0.06 |
28 |
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Raithlind - Connell |
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0.01 |
4 |
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Raithlind - Donoghue |
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0.00 |
1 |
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Raithlind - Hea |
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0.00 |
1 |
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Raithlind - Lynch |
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0.00 |
1 |
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Aine - O'Kirby |
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0.00 |
1 |
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1 Subtotal |
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0.25 |
116 |
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2 Non Eoganacht/Dal Cais surname and Irish
Type II |
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2 Subtotal |
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0.36 |
166 |
282 |
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3 Eoganacht/Dal Cais surname and Not Irish
Type II |
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Chaisil - McCarthy |
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2 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(1) |
0.00 |
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L159_2 |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Chaisil - Sullivan |
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65 |
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IrishI |
(3) |
0.01 |
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IrishIII |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(50) |
0.11 |
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P314_2 |
(2) |
0.00 |
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L159_2 |
(3) |
0.01 |
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L513 |
(5) |
0.01 |
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ElyCarroll |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Chaisil - SullivanBarry |
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2 |
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IrishIII |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Chaisil - SullivanBowes |
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26 |
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IrishI |
(1) |
0.00 |
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IrishIII |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(16) |
0.03 |
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L513 |
(1) |
0.00 |
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ElyCarroll |
(7) |
0.02 |
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Chaisil - SullivanDoyle |
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1 |
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590917 |
(1) |
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Chaisil/Raithlind - Callaghan |
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2 |
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IrishI |
(1) |
0.00 |
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IrishIII |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Dal Cais - OBrien |
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1 |
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Glendamnach - Keeffe |
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2 |
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IrishIII |
(1) |
0.00 |
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ElyCarroll |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Raithlind - Connell |
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2 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(2) |
0.00 |
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Raithlind - Donoghue |
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|
4 |
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IrishI |
(3) |
0.01 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Raithlind - Flynn |
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|
3 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(3) |
0.01 |
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Raithlind - Hea |
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|
1 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Raithlind - Long |
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|
3 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(3) |
0.01 |
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Raithlind - O'Donnell |
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|
1 |
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Raithlind - O'Neill |
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1 |
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IrishI |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Raithlind - O'Mahony |
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|
64 |
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IrishI |
(3) |
0.01 |
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IrishIII |
(8) |
0.02 |
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Other |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(44) |
0.09 |
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P314_2 |
(2) |
0.00 |
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L159_2 |
(2) |
0.00 |
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590917 |
(3) |
0 |
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ElyCarroll |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Raithlind - Mongan |
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1 |
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L513 |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Raithlind - Duggan |
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|
2 |
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IrishI |
(1) |
0.00 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
(1) |
0.00 |
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3 Subtotal |
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0.39 |
183 |
183 |
465 |
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4 Not Eoganacht/Dal Cais surname and Not
Irish Type II |
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IrishI |
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9 |
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IrishIII |
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10 |
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IrishIV |
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2 |
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L513 |
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9 |
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L371 |
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0 |
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L159_2 |
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3 |
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P314_2 |
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4 |
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Other |
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1 |
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ClanColla |
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6 |
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R_L21 |
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0 |
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Unknown (GD > 9) |
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211 |
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4 Subtotal |
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262 |
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Surnames in the Eoganacht sept project
include (see
clans)
-
MacCarthy, O'Sullivan, plus later O'Dennehy,
MacGillicudy, O'Callaghan, MacAuliffe
Eoganacht Locha Lein - O'Moriarty
Eoganacht Raithlind -
-
O'Mahoney, O'Donoghue, O'Long, O'Neill, O'Duggan,
O'Feehan, O'Donnell, Mongan, O'Connell, Lynch, O'Hea,
O'Cohalane/O'Coughlan, O'Cannifree, O'Bogue, Cahalane, O'Cronin,
O'Flahiffe, O'Flynn, Connelly, O'Callaghan
Eoganacht Glendamnach - O'Keefe
Eoganacht Aine - O'Kirby
Eoganacht Arann (a.k.a. Ninussa) - extinct
Eoganacht Ruis Argait - extinct
Dal Cais - OBrien, Kennedy (not
of the Eoganacht sept, however many members are closely related to
the Eoganacht sept)
The clan names are well-known and
relatively easy to categorize. The cadet branch names, based on
nicknames due to the large number of individuals in a clan trying to
differentiate themselves, are more obscure and will be a challenge to
identify.
Eoganacht Sept Project:
Considering the Trinity Study in 2008, I noticed that they used
STR's to find out who the Eoganacht's may have been based on their
DNA. I believe the reason they couldn't come to a conclusion is
precisely that they used STRs and did not identify the haplogroups
of the test donors. The documentation of the study (history of the
Eoganachts) described their ancestry but the testing of the STRs
reflected the current STR values of the test subjects. A closer
alignment would be to use deep ancestry DNA analysis (haplogroup
analysis of the individual STR tests) to the deep ancestry goals of
the 2008 Trinity Study; i.e. studying the deep ancestry of the
Eoganachts.
I believe that by identifying the haplogroups of the
test donors (see workbook columns
AZ and BA, Best Match L-21 Project and Closest Match
respectively) the study would have found the MRCA of the test donors
which would have identified their ancestry. This is the foundation
of my study of the Eoganachts. The study will eventually include
those in the Normal Curve that are South Irish, possibly those that
are Irish Type III, and those whose haplogroups may have been in the
area prior to the time of the Eoganachts. Those outside the Normal
Curve will be explained before being eliminated or rethought as to
belonging to the Eoganachts.
South Irish
- 1 Eoganacht/Dal Cais surname and Irish Type II -
as expected
2 Not Eoganacht/Dal Cais
surname and Irish Type II -
as expected
- Future study - those without
Eo'ganacht surnames South Irish
lived in the area before surnames
(before 1000-1000 AD)
they are South Irish but descended
from different groups other than Eo'ganacht
- what is the cultural history
their ancestors belong?
what region do their family
history state they belong?
what timeframe do their
family histories include?
they are South Irish but
their surnames were changed to their mother's maiden
surname in order to inherit property from their mother
Not South Irish
Eoganacht/Dal
Cais surname and not Irish Type II
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Those who are Eo'ganacht surnamed and South Irish fit the
accepted pattern. Those who are Eo'ganacht
surnamed and have a non-South Irish haplogroup should be studied
for how these haplogroups
are related to the South Irish and the region in time and
markers.
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Those with Eo'ganacht surnames
but Not South Irish
-
lived in the area before surnames (before 1000-1000
AD) and
adopted Eo'ganacht surnames or
migrated to southern
Ireland and later adopted Eo'ganacht surnames
they are not South Irish
but their surnames were changed to their mother's
Eoganacht maiden surname in order to inherit
property from their mother
Haplogroups
study
what if the
original region of these haplogroups?
- did they migrate to southern
Ireland and change their names to Eo'ganacht
surnames?
were they originally from
southern Ireland?
what is their calculated date range?
- did these haplogroups exist
before the South Irish date range and before
surnames and therefore exist in the region
contemporary to the South Irish?
how do their markers compare to the
South Irish?
4 Not Eoganacht/Dal Cais surname and
Not Irish Type II
How to
confirm clans and septs? By testing the DNA of known Eoganacht Clan
members either individually or through research projects.
- At least 3 results for known surname
members, not closely related, will be used as the target baseline
for the surname clan. This will be a moving target as our testing
becomes more refined.
The results above will then be
compared to their closest matches of the research group common
ancestors.
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